In this episode of Americana Podcast: The 51st State, host Robert Earl Keen sits down with two of Texas’s most revered creative forces—Terry and Jo Harvey Allen. A true artistic duo, their work stretches across music, theater, film, literature, and visual art, each piece carrying the unmistakable edge of West Texas grit and imagination.

Terry Allen, celebrated as both a groundbreaking songwriter and a visual artist, has long blurred the lines between mediums, telling stories that are as cinematic as they are deeply personal. Jo Harvey Allen, equally trailblazing, has carved her path as a writer, actress, and performance artist, bringing the raw complexities of American life—especially through women’s voices—onto stage and screen.

Together, Robert, Terry, and Jo Harvey reflect on decades of creation, collaboration, and connection: from navigating the intersections of music and art to sustaining a marriage and creative partnership that defies convention. It’s part one of a conversation as expansive as the plains they call home—an intimate, fearless, and unforgettable look at two artists who continue to shape the Americana landscape.

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